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Keeping kids safe online is a top priority.

Today, the Commission has preliminarily found porn platforms Pornhub, Stripchat, XNXX, and XVideos in breach of the Digital Services Act for allowing minors to access adult content.

We’ve also launched investigation into Snapchat under doubts that the platform has failed to adequately protect minors from harmful content, grooming, and illegal products like drugs and vapes. We also suspect that they have failed to verify users age sufficiently.

Forcing consumers to reveal their identity to data abusers keeps no one safe, not children, not adults. Breaking and bypassing privacy technology actively makes the Internet less safe. Curtail data brokers and abusive targeted ad industry, regulate and monitor what GDPR already legislated.
@HennaVirkkunen

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Dear @EUCommission and @HennaVirkkunen
Please consider what the world wide community of scientists for computer security and privacy, who are studying the impacts of technology on society, have to say on this topic. They published an open letter, signed by more than 400 scientists in the field, calling for a (temporary) moratorium on age verification online earlier this month:
csa-scientist-open-letter.org/

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@HennaVirkkunen I understand all the concerns here, but do we realy want minors to grow up watching 5 dudes in a group r*pe like scene do a young underaged looking woman with pain in her face, urinating on her, thinking that's normal and they have to do or accept this in their later lifes?

Those are contents minors find behind these companies "Are you 18 years old? Klick yes or no!".

This is irresponsible!

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@HennaVirkkunen How do you suggest the platforms should do that? The lazy way everybody around pushes results in the platforms storing huge ammouts of data with government issued IDs. If you don't trust them with child protection, do you really trust them to keep that data private, not leak them and not misuse them?

So please, really think through the next steps. Cause so far I see only really stupid solutions for this issue, resulting in weakening privacy in the name of protecting children.

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@HennaVirkkunen how exactly these platforms should identify minors? And what would prevent minors from using a VPN to connect from a country that doesn't put such restrictions? Also, let's say you target the big players and VPNs are not a thing: how much time does it take to people to migrate to other less known porn sites, potentially being exposed to higher risks (e.g. viruses)?

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@HennaVirkkunen

Are you suggesting it would be safe for EU citizens to submit their passport details to services like PornHub?

I think the sentiment is good but for age verification to work it needs to be provided as a service on EU/local governmental level to not leak sensitive information.

Unfortunatly not all countries have the faith in their goverment the same way we in Finland have, and in some cases for good reason, so age verification will be tricky to implement.

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We say this loud and clear: online platforms are responsible for protecting minors, and they need to do more to deliver on this responsibility.

The full press releases:

🔗 ec.europa.eu/commission/pressc
🔗 ec.europa.eu/commission/pressc

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@HennaVirkkunen I think officials should re-examine the unspoken assumption that small children must be hooked up to whatever remote computers.

Car analogies work well in this area. If the Internet is the "information superhighway", then why are parents expecting little Johnny and Susan to play out on the highway? Just a generation ago it would have been framed as abuse and neglect, but now our children must somehow be steeped in the SV wizardry or else they will wither on the vine...?

@HennaVirkkunen How is that to be done without handing these platforms our identities and ability to track us? Seems the last thing I want is for them to be trusted with anything.

There is a simple way: the EU establishes a «neutral point of identity» similar to the passage of Spanish administration https://pasarela.clave.gob.es/. Just the regulation enabling it have to make sure it doesn't store data on which sites you visit.

This service only has to respond to the provider's request affirmatively or negatively given legal conditions to access its site.

CC: @HennaVirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

@david @bjoreman @HennaVirkkunen that site somehow doesn't seem to work here. But in general, these proposals fail, because sites can regularly probe for age brackets. If you do this on a regular basis, you can figure out someone's birthday.

E.g. if 12 years is a bracket boundary, the day that age gets attested is the birthday of the kid. Even more likely because someone is more likely to check close after their birthday to unlock some site/functionality.

Excuse me Daniël, but I don't understand the problem. Wasn't the goal to prevent people under the legal age from accessing the service? Once that was achieved, what's the failure?

CC: @bjoreman@toot.cafe @HennaVirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

@david @bjoreman @HennaVirkkunen The problem with most age attestations is that you can work out someone's birthday by keeping track of past attestations. When the attestation changes, someone had their birthday, thus the attestation gives away information that someone might not want to reveal.

This gets worse with implementations with which you can test age brackets (different age brackets under 18, to allow some content).

@david @bjoreman @HennaVirkkunen So, the problem with age verification is that it is yet another attack on privacy. Not surprisingly, behind the scenes Meta is pushing this a lot through various sock puppets.

@david @bjoreman @HennaVirkkunen Also, age verification is strongly detrimental to open source and your freedom to choose your OS.

Most implementations of 'anonymous' age verification require remote hardware attestation (eventually), because otherwise you can manipulate the app/process that partakes in the attestation.

Mandatory remote attestation is pretty much the end of free OS choice, because you running your own non-approved software will shut you out of services.